My 3D06 eff blows

[miahallen]

What's up masters,

I thought my run was OK, until I saw this SS that Jody posted in another thread...now I'm really wondering what's up with my eff. I haven't had enough time with this 295...so take it easy on me :o

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t228/miahallen/3D0602-1.jpg

http://3oh6photos.com/forum_post/hwc/09_06/06_248bclk_5195-1.png

My uncore is higher...my GPU clocks are way higher...but our SM2 scores are almost identicle. Canyon flight was the only test I scored higher in (shader clocks, right?). But if it was shader clocks that got me the frames in Canyon...shouldn't I see similar performance in Deep Freeze?

His CPU scored higher (but i think that's cause he's in XP)...I'm in Vista x86 (like Gautam reccommend for '06). HT enabled for me...I'm guessing same for him.

I didn't use any LOD tweaks, but I didn't think LOD helps out much for '06...am I wrong? :confused:

I'd appreciate any advice...what do you think?

Miah

[Viss]

Everytime scores like this or does it vary? With the ATI setup my 06 swings a lot when using Vista, so much i changed it for win7. Not a particulair test but most often GT1 and/or Canyon would be much too low.

[3oh6]

(like Gautam reccommend for '06)
problem #1. not so much the running in Vista but listening to G...well running in Vista too but the key is you listened to G.

your canyon is high because of Vista, which is also why your CPU is so tank low. just have a look at the top 5 single card on the Bot, Vista is nowhere to be seen. it could also explain your low Deep Freeze, not sure how Vista effects that. but the more i look at your screen, Deep Freeze just looks like it is bugged low or your CPU clocks are holding it back.

while you are looking at the top 5 at HWBot, have a look at my 34K and compare to the others. the biggest difference - aside from what you can't see in screens - is my GPU clocks. look at deep freeze...i have most of them covered. could be a bit to do with drivers to, but definitely not GPU dependent. HTH

[miahallen]

Yeah...I saw your run on air Jody...crazy nice :)

[Gatman]

Well, I still stand by Vista being better, but it's a lot grayer with nVidia and 06. The top guys all mistakenly ran XP for 05 as well and I think most of us know what a mistake that is now.

I don't think there's anything wrong at all with your efficiency. You're barely over 5.1GHz and still in 15th.

There's really nothing wrong with your score. The deep freeze is fully CPU bound and the canyon flight is great as it should be. The only issue is with the CPU test. With ATi the gap is about 500 pts (not much), but with nVidia it's about 900. On ATi the higher game tests are enough to overcompensate and bring Vista/7 a solid 500 points higher than XP.

With nVidia, the gap is larger and the two almost cancel each other out. In fact, it's tough enough to call that which OS is better will probably come down to the very clocks you're running on the CPU and GPU.

You might have seen this (http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=830131) fellow's score in XP; he has almost the exact same clocks as you all around, and is a little over 100 pts higher, which we can chalk up to slightly higher clocks, but mostly it's just within the margin of error. That's how close XP and Vista are to one another on your setup. Too close for me to call without doing it myself, and even if I did, the gap would be that insignificant. FWIW, Sampsa (http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=881914) is also running similar clocks to both of you, and is the highest, in Vista.

You can give XP a shot if you have the time and LN2, but I wouldn't fret about your current score much. There's not a single person with a higher score and lower CPU speeds. The two people with comparable setups to you, one in XP, and the other in Vista, are both close enough that it's fair to say that nothing's wrong. No bugging, no disasters here. Sampsa's doing better in GT1 because ASUS boards set their RTL's tight as nails by default and his uncore is a couple of notches higher, so unless you've manually set yours to the low/mid 50's, you'll be a bit behind, but even that is once again just a couple hundred points. With the best OS (whether it's Vista or XP) and a tighter system, you could be looking at about 33.5-33.6k at the very most IMO.

P.S. with Vince and Sham, I've seen what 34K takes. (they used XP) You either have to have nutty GPU clocks paired with 5.25-5.3GHz like they did, or 5.4GHz+ with low ones. I think if you ran both XP and Vista at your current clocks, you'd get Vista being maybe 150-200 pts higher. Your clocks are nowhere near high enough on either for it. For where you are, low 33's is just right. It's possible, though I doubt it, for XP to come out a bit higher.

But hell, according to Jody everything I'm saying is just hot air anyways so you're probably best off just doing the dead opposite. :p

[3oh6]

But hell, according to Jody everything I'm saying is just hot air anyways so you're probably best off just doing the dead opposite. :p
hey, now you are putting words in my mouth...i didn't say it was hot air, i just said he shouldn't listen to it :D

but yeah, Miah, what he said. G is the comparison king and is likely bang on here. your CPU clocks are just too low to get worried about the score. if you are pulling that at 5.3GHz+...then yeah.

[Gomeler]

So basically what I'm hearing is you need a new CPU :plol:

[miahallen]

Yeah...new CPU...If you guys were in my shoes...where would you be shopping?

Sorry about the noob question:
Why does this CPU pass the CPU tests at more than 5200MHz...but has trouble with the game tests at that speed. GT1 & GT3 seem to be the worst?

[Andre]

Yeah...new CPU...If you guys were in my shoes...where would you be shopping?

Sorry about the noob question:
Why does this CPU pass the CPU tests at more than 5200MHz...but has trouble with the game tests at that speed. GT1 & GT3 seem to be the worst?



that's why evga has evbot.:) You can change bclk during 06 benching.

[miahallen]

Common Andre...I was hoping for a comment out of you like:
"I know where you can get a good CPU, shoot me a PM!"
:D

[road-runner]

Common Andre...I was hoping for a comment out of you like:
"I know where you can get a good CPU, shoot me a PM!"
:D

Been waiting on one of those myself... :D

[Andre]

Common Andre...I was hoping for a comment out of you like:
"I know where you can get a good CPU, shoot me a PM!"
:D


I heard that. You will have it when I am ready to sell "something".

[miahallen]

Nice :D

[Punx223]

miah i have seen to where the IO aka NB needed to be cool or the cpu would pass the test but would fail gpu tests because the ioh was not happy.

try a lil ln2 drizzle on the nb sink during the gpu tests


may sound strange coming from someone who just went I7 but i had a similar issue with X48 / E8600...


my suggestion may totally not apply but its worth a shot

[miahallen]

Yeah, my next trick was to install a water block on the mobo...but I fried it in the process :( Now I need a new Classified

[Punx223]

Yeah, my next trick was to install a water block on the mobo...but I fried it in the process :( Now I need a new Classified



its ok you know a couple people there :up: