Another new bios and wow

[Shammy]

new beta bios i have here also supports a new cpu:

http://h.imagehost.org/0063/wow.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0063/wow)

wow just on air, bclock ability of the new cpu is nuts.

760:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ah9cfdf/n/IX58S630_bin

759:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ah9cfe8/n/IX58S230_bin

758:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ah9cf1e/n/IX58SZ30_bin

you can test with also current bloomfields to see how it does

[Aditya]

Gulftown!! :eek::eek:
more info plz shamino!
is there a NDA for this cpu too?
coretemp detecting it as Diamondville! :rofl:

[Shammy]

good with my new toy too, 251 on air:

http://h.imagehost.org/0193/gh.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0193/gh)

[Oj0]

You have the Atom WR :rofl:

[road-runner]

Links do not work?

[pauld5999]

awesome, this is great to see
any other changes in this bios besides gulftown support?

[Shammy]

yea updates to the mrc for bloomfields so if can give me some feedback for bloomfields will be nice

[Kal-EL]

wow, exciting stuff, the best stuff on earth just got better? :eek:

[Gunslinger]

links are broken for me also.

[miahallen]

WOW Peter!!! That chip is amazing :D

[Shammy]

all i can say is welcome back to yorkfield and -150+c days

http://h.imagehost.org/0834/6222.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0834/6222)

it'll prolly keep scaliong to 2v but i dont wanna kill it yet


could only squeeze in a 3d mark cpu test before the whole board got wet, 5.8G cpu test should be ok:

http://h.imagehost.org/0335/5662.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0335/5662)

[BenchZowner]

That chip sucks Peter... send it to me and I'll get you a better one asap :D

[dinos22]

oh so these are actually unlocked :o

i thought there were locked to like 19xmulti eek

[Oliver]

sweet work man, thats impressive :up:

thanks for posting in

peace

[Aditya]

11k cpu score! :eek::eek:

[Karmakazi]

Woooow. Glad I skipped 1156, looks like gulftown is gonna be crazy.

Is this typical for these chips? Where does it max in vantage? And any estimate of when we will see retail?p:D

[Shammy]

cpu goes crazy... 5.9 cpu test:

http://h.imagehost.org/0256/5892.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0256/5892)

i'll put in 2.0v before i know it

[dinos22]

:o :o

[sofos1990]

Crazy chip :D
I want to see a Vantage run:D:p

[Raja@ASUS]

Lol, this is where the PWM current game on some boards is going to get very interesting (450w+ peaks I bet).

[chispy]

Oh my goodness , what a beauty of cpu :) , thanks for Sharing Shamino:up:

Angelo.

[Shammy]

tried up to 2.02v but couldnt get 6.4g stable long enough

http://h.imagehost.org/0517/6386.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0517/6386)

trying to go cpu test at 6 , cold bugging between tests:

http://a.imagehost.org/0281/5958.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0281/5958)

5.9 vantage:

http://h.imagehost.org/0592/517777.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0592/517777)

[Andre]

WTF~~~

[Karmakazi]

Holy mother of jebus :eek:

[road-runner]

Damn! To bad most folks wont be able to afford one...

[ocgmj]

outstanding chip :clap:

[Gomeler]

Uhh.. holy shit. These come out Q1 2010 so we still have a couple of months with Bloomfield. Those results are absolutely insane, Super Pi 32M is going to crash another 30 seconds with ease using those chips. Breaking 6 minutes will become the standard soon :plol: Thanks for the preview Shamino!

edit: are you saying it has very little coldbug on LN2? Around -150C?

[Slovnaft]

Peter,

You just broke me out of my depression. Thank you.
There is hope for benching after all.
I'm SO excited.

[Slovnaft]

how much current does this pull at load? I'd be really interested to see a scope shot of out. cap. at idle to vantage/06 load transition.

[Vapor]

That's insanely awesome...wow.

[Gatman]

Good, but still not good enough to make massman's dreams come true, lol. :p

[Slovnaft]

Good, but still not good enough to make massman's dreams come true, lol. :p

so first ES cut silicon that does 6.2ghz 6c/12t falls short?! dear god...

[Gatman]

massman's dream is for Wolfdale to get beaten in 01 :p

Anyways that's awesome stuff Peter. The clock speeds aren't much of a shock to me because it's 32nm, and to put it in perspective, new product launches always bring exciting numbers.

But what's truly beautiful about this are the temps and voltages that you're using. That's what we want, the numbers in CPU-Z be damned. :D

[carpo93]

very interesting

will evga make a new mobo for this cpu, or the classified will remain the top?

[road-runner]

Didnt take long for these images to appear on XS... :rofl: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234592

[sofos1990]

Great great great:D
Now it's time for wprime?:p

[road-runner]

I guess I need to just send the 975 back when it gets here Friday... :D:rofl:

[Slovnaft]

massman's dream is for Wolfdale to get beaten in 01 :p

Anyways that's awesome stuff Peter. The clock speeds aren't much of a shock to me because it's 32nm, and to put it in perspective, new product launches always bring exciting numbers.

But what's truly beautiful about this are the temps and voltages that you're using. That's what we want, the numbers in CPU-Z be damned. :D

well if it benches vantage at 5.9 it can likely bench 01 at 6.0. which brings up another question: what about clocks with HT/cores disabled?
Anyways, by production silicon we might actually see wolfdale have some competition in 01 at least, and certainly in 1M.

So Sham, does this chip exhibit any of the oddities associated with bloomfield like voltage holes and odd current behaviour?

[Shaolin]

Congrats and thanks for showing us this, Peter. Absolutely incredible. I'll start saving for this chip as asap. :up:

[knopflerbruce]

These chips will rock the bot, superi1m - wprime - 3dmark06 - you name it:D Even Pifast.

[hipro5]

Heh, heh, heh.......I JUST found out this forum through a guy posting in hwbox.gr about this thread...... :D

ALL I have to say about this is: WOW!....NICE new bios M8.... :up: :D

[Raja@ASUS]

So Sham, does this chip exhibit any of the oddities associated with bloomfield like voltage holes and odd current behaviour?


Not according to what I heard today, it's supposed to be good Yorkie all over again in terms of decent behaviour.

[k|ngp|n]

CPU GO CWAZY!!!! :D

[MaadDaawg]

Links worked just fine for me ??? Downloaded the file for my 759 and the one for my 769 :) Now, just need me one or two of those 12 core chips:eek:

[miahallen]

Crazy results Peter 50K CPU score in Vantage :up:
What happened to Intel no longer cherry pickin CPUs and seeding them into the hands of the capable :shrug: :rofl: Awesome CPU :clap:

[hiwa]

:clap::clap: WTF sham :up:

[dinos22]

Good, but still not good enough to make massman's dreams come true, lol. :p

who knows man
if future revisions can get 6.3GHz-6.35GHz 01 it might work hehe :)

i reckon its not looking highly likely.......unless shams chip is a loch ness monster that will never be seen again lol (doubt it :D)

[Andre]

got 4 pcs gulftown. We'll see what happened on my hand.

[Hazzan]

Insane on CPU score...:up::up:

[chispy]

got 4 pcs gulftown. We'll see what happened on my hand.

Yay ,go Andre gogogo :up:

[miahallen]

got 4 pcs gulftown. We'll see what happened on my hand.

FROM WHERE :mad:

Hey Andre...when you find the one you don't want...PM me :cool:...


....please :D

[Oliver]

jeez, what happened huh

SICK ...

That silicon seems very tasty

KEEP PUSHING IT

[George_o/c]

That's sick... eeeeeeek ! I mean REALLY REALLY SICK ! :D

[Shammy]

well if it benches vantage at 5.9 it can likely bench 01 at 6.0. which brings up another question: what about clocks with HT/cores disabled?
Anyways, by production silicon we might actually see wolfdale have some competition in 01 at least, and certainly in 1M.

So Sham, does this chip exhibit any of the oddities associated with bloomfield like voltage holes and odd current behaviour?

no , the cold bug is the same at idle or lower at load so its not a current sensitive cold bug like i7. feels like mch cold bug due to the windows error that pops up.

[Shammy]

Heh, heh, heh.......I JUST found out this forum through a guy posting in hwbox.gr about this thread...... :D

ALL I have to say about this is: WOW!....NICE new bios M8.... :up: :D

so when are you testing some GTs? :D lemme know...

[Shammy]

CPU GO CWAZY!!!! :D

thats exactly what was ringin in my head during benching :rofl:

[Andre]

I hope shammy fix bios which let my i7 bench 7G.:D

[Shammy]

heh this just a random take and try gulftown, i think very easy to see higher numbers when people start trying

[Deanzo]

WoW, what else do you say!

[Karmakazi]

cant wait!

these chips got me droolin! like you already said, feels like waiting on yorkfield!

[runmc]

Very nice Lardy - Looks like fun to me :D

[IllusioN OC]

Just been reading this thread.., middle of the night here.., ought to get back to sleep.., cant really do that now.. :-)))

[lolhalol]

i go offline for 24hours and this happns... wat a amazing month of benching.. to that insane i7-975 to vivs 01 wr and now i9... absolutly mind blasting....

regards
reggie

[bazx]

lol i just spat my coffee out

amazing peter

there cant be many things left that would make you want to bench again but i bet this made the hair on the back of your neck stand up

[sacha35]

Totally amassing work there Shamino looks like socket 1366 i9 will blow AMD out of the water in all benchmarks.

[Shammy]

lol i just spat my coffee out

amazing peter

there cant be many things left that would make you want to bench again but i bet this made the hair on the back of your neck stand up

damn right, i was tired when i started to put in the cpu to test and on air the bclk surprised me so i was like , ' ok, interesting.... bet it has a -20c cold bug then...'
so grudgingly put on the pot and was totally woken up after that :D

[TONY GAL]

congrats man !!!very nice cpu ..i hope 32m broke 6 !!!:up::clap:

[K404]

I didnt expect an early hex to OC so far... I really didnt. wow! Thanks for sharing these results Peter :D

Interesting that this stuff aint out till next year and theres useful results up in mid Sep....


ATI 5 series is announced in 6 days and theres nothing public :p:p


My rig aint even BOUGHT and somehow its obsolete :p I hope worthwhile 32nm chips come in at a good price as well as well as these "Nessies" :p

[Raja@ASUS]

how much current does this pull at load? I'd be really interested to see a scope shot of out. cap. at idle to vantage/06 load transition.

I'd be interested in that too. If it's anything like Lynnfield with additonal cores, at those voltages the power should be well in excess of 400w. Will be inetresting to see how many boards can handle the current let alone the transient response requirements at these frequencies. This is where higher switching frequencies and the advanced monitoring features of the Volterra controllers should really shine. For other's boards it could be a case of smoke plumes or shutoff's.

[carpo93]

i need a gulftown

and of course a classified

[sofos1990]

i need a gulftown

and of course a classified

You also need a lot of money:p

Anybody knows the price of them?p:p

[TONY GAL]

You also need a lot of money:p

Anybody knows the price of them?p:p

i have 5 peace of this :):rofl:

[k|ngp|n]

These new setups are going to wreck every single benchmark lol :up:

[DrNip]

No doubt.

[Expat GriZ]

Well, I guess I had better start saving my pennies now. Jaw dropping results Mr Tan!!! Has anybody tried this new bios (759) with Bloomfield??

[Chiller]

i have 5 peace of this :):rofl:

Do you have 5 chips of i7 1000 ???

i whant one, for benching with Asus MARS in sli.

And later this year with 4x Evga GTX285 Classified on a Classified 4way sli mobo.

[Putittogether]

That chip sucks Peter... send it to me and I'll get you a better one asap :D

He is right something is wrong with that chip. send it to me and I will fix it for you :D

[kitfit1]

Damn, and i've only had this 975 for a few weeks :parghh:

That is an astonishing result shamino. Looking forward to a new "toy" next year me thinks :D

[road-runner]

Damn, and i've only had this 975 for a few weeks :parghh:

That is an astonishing result shamino. Looking forward to a new "toy" next year me thinks :D


I know the feeling my 975 will be here tomorrow, may not even open it and send it back...

[Oj0]

PLEASE show us spi1m _/-\o_

[Berk]

Do you think the 132-BL-E758-A1 can achieve the same BCLK as the Classified board with the Gulftown. I'm not much of a gamer and won't benefit from the extra PCI-E slot but plan to get a Gulftown as soon as I can get my hands on one. Also, is there a bios available for the P6T Deluxe?

[Shammy]

NVidia VGAs arent the best in 06 and 05 but I borrowed 4 aircooled classified 285s, tested with low uncore ~4G:

http://a.imagehost.org/0348/40128.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0348/40128)

http://a.imagehost.org/0577/52612.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0577/52612)

05 should be benchable up to 6.3+ with more generous vcore

[SoF]

eeeeek this is insane - 40k 06 is history as well es 52.5 :eek::cool::clap::up: Great work sham!

[Oj0]

Spi1m PLEASE!

[Kal-EL]

What a humangous leap in performance Shammy, I'm completely floored bro :eek:

[IllusioN OC]

amazing.., great work!!!

[chispy]

:clap: , Shamino thats a killer set up :up: , omg hwbot 3D its going to see a big leap after all this new tech its out , 40K 06 , 52K 05 :eek: , wow just woow, looking forward for more pretesting Shamino , thanks a lot for sharing :up: , soon 60K 05 anyone :plol:.

[nickshih]

wow.....that why u dont want to go PUB and having fun with us

still pushing the score -.-"

[MTP04]

Had to register and post for this.

Nice Shammy, good to see you still have time to bench and deliver lol!!

[TONY GAL]

great job shammy!

[hiwa]

:clap::clap: great job sham :up: eek 40k

[Karmakazi]

sick results shammy... :eek: stock clocks on 295 too lol

[Berk]

Does anybody know how I can get the bios for a P6T

[MrCape]

Frigging insane CPU. Just amazing.

[chispy]

Just Jaw dropping perfmornce ehh:up:

[Harshal]

killer setup Guruji :)
the endless ringing is a give away of big numbers happenning:P

[DeDaL]

Absolutely awesome WR breaker chip here. :eek:

[joeyw3704]

Sham how hot where the 285 classy cards together on air?

[Oj0]

Peter PLEASE post Spi1m!

[slamms]

Crazy result Sham!!! Wait Spi 1M)))

[MOnstru]

Pi 1M should be a WR :)

[Oj0]

Well unless he spent a few days tweaking it to be as slow as possible it certainly IS a WR :D

[Kal-EL]

Shammy, when they gonna release the x58-4way stuff? Is the 4-way mobo gonna have any extra bells/whistles for Gulftown?

[Berk]

Does anyone know where I can get a bios for a P6T Deluxe that work with gulftown?

[sofos1990]

I think you should send an email to Asus:D
Shamino is benching with Classified atm:D

[Berk]

Thanks for the reply. I'll try that.

[Massman]

Pi 1M should be a WR :)

What's this all about 1M and 32M and Vantage???

We all know there's only one question: how is it in 3DM01? :D

[Shammy]

Sham how hot where the 285 classy cards together on air?

hot enough, but fans spin faster so they still run ~ 70C

[Shammy]

Shammy, when they gonna release the x58-4way stuff? Is the 4-way mobo gonna have any extra bells/whistles for Gulftown?

its got extra bells and whistles for cpu clockin , whether bloomie or gulfie dont matter

[Shammy]

What's this all about 1M and 32M and Vantage???

We all know there's only one question: how is it in 3DM01? :D

i dunno how to run 01 man its like i've never really benched 01 in eons

[Shammy]

Peter PLEASE post Spi1m!

ok!!

http://h.imagehost.org/0642/pi.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0642/pi)

[Oj0]

Hmmm, that pp translates to just over 6.7s at 6.2ghz, that's... High :confused:

[slamms]

Shamino :D Fairly I admit that waited for 6,2Ghz))))

2520*16.578= 41776

41776/7.00= 5970 Mhz need for new WR

[miahallen]

ok!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl: :up:

[Oj0]

The WR isn't 7.000s though, it's 6.700s

41776/6.7= 6235MHz required

stummerwinter = 6.7*6021= 40341 PP, substantially better. I know he must've tweaked the hell out of it but somehow I was expecting better performance per clock from this?

EDIT: 7.000s will only get you 37th place

[Shammy]

scary to think what we'll see if someone start handpicking cpus.

second cpu , it only does better....

http://h.imagehost.org/0832/6090.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0832/6090)

http://h.imagehost.org/0621/6156.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0621/6156)

Maybe the 762 just kicks butt clocking the GTs :D

[Shammy]

:rofl::rofl::rofl: :up:

hahah at least you get the joke

[Massman]

i dunno how to run 01 man its like i've never really benched 01 in eons

One run at any frequencies with any (high-end) card is enough for me. :)

scary to think what we'll see if someone start handpicking cpus.

Corrected that for ya

scary to think what we'll see when Andre starts handpicking cpus.

[sofos1990]

scary to think what we'll see when Andre starts handpicking cpus.
Don't forget that he has already 4:Dp:p

[Oj0]

No he doesn't ;)

[sofos1990]

No he doesn't ;)
I read the following message few fays agop:p

got 4 pcs gulftown. We'll see what happened on my hand.


I don't know what's the truth....but I don't care too:rofl:

[k|ngp|n]

I am coming to tapei buddy, hopefully showing up at your lab with some 5870's if AMD hooks it up :up:

[chispy]

Nice Vince , i smell WRs falling :D , x4 5870 + gem Xeon + Classi 4way sli + you and Shamino together = anihilation of all benchies :plol: Good Luck on your trip to Taipei bro say hi to J from me :D.

Shamino you da men 1m done :rofl: , now lets see 32m p;) , thanks for sharing.


Angelo.

[Nazar]

Hey Vince! Dont forget hwbot restricting unreleased hardware :D I know you'll submit 25 WR's before deadline, bro :D

[hiwa]

:) wow nice pi :D maybe peter never ran pi before :up:
retail target 6GHz vantage p:p

[Shammy]

I am coming to tapei buddy, hopefully showing up at your lab with some 5870's if AMD hooks it up :up:

sweet boss, im ready for ya

[Berk]

I just received a Q2WV, flashed my classified 760 with the bios posted here and get no boot. The LED stays at FF. Any ideas?

[Shammy]

I just received a Q2WV, flashed my classified 760 with the bios posted here and get no boot. The LED stays at FF. Any ideas?

Q2WV not supported, Q3xxxx yes

[Berk]

Do you have any idea how I can get a bios that will work? I didn't think it would make a difference :(

[Karmakazi]

Do you have any idea how I can get a bios that will work? I didn't think it would make a difference :(

EDIT: Sorry misread your post

[Berk]

I got an email where you said: "Did you flash an Asus P6T with classi bios??? I have a P6T Deluxe and have asked on several forums about a bios with no luck.

[slamms]

41776/6.7= 6235MHz required


:rofl::D sorry, how it is possible to mix 6.700 and 7.00?:)

I expected better PP.

[Oj0]

I read the following message few fays agop:p




I don't know what's the truth....but I don't care too:rofl:


You think it's such a low number? :p :D

[Andre]

I just received a Q2WV, flashed my classified 760 with the bios posted here and get no boot. The LED stays at FF. Any ideas?



Q2WV is westmere which is 2 way Xeon, so some bios doesn't support.

[GFDuke]

Hey Sham. Long time no see. Havn't really talked since all your help in the VRZone days. Have you tried a pcmark 05 run? Would be a nice test. sweet chip there. Hopefully the retail version will be somewhat close. we al know it wont do this.

[Oj0]

Really? Comparing i7 ES chips to their retail counterparts, I'd say these are almost guaranteed to hit 7GHz eventually :p

[slamms]

Really? Comparing i7 ES chips to their retail counterparts, I'd say these are almost guaranteed to hit 7GHz eventually :p

answer to AMD Phenom II 7GHz will be ready;)

[SoF]

Hey Sham. Long time no see. Havn't really talked since all your help in the VRZone days. Have you tried a pcmark 05 run? Would be a nice test. sweet chip there. Hopefully the retail version will be somewhat close. we al know it wont do this.

it is always a pain game with ES - sometimes they do awesome sometimes they suck...there is a stepping of Gulftown samples which seem to be quite bad (not even 4gig on air with 1.4V) and the ones shammy uses doing 6+...I am still thinking about what chip to get but it's quite expensive game ;)
To your PC Mark question - forget about it! When you have ever benched PC Mark you should know, that running i7 without HT is actually faster compared to running all 8 threads! So maybe the 2 additional "real" cores might get a small improvement but this bench is still more related to the storage systems you are using ;)

[Andre]

it is always a pain game with ES - sometimes they do awesome sometimes they suck...there is a stepping of Gulftown samples which seem to be quite bad (not even 4gig on air with 1.4V) and the ones shammy uses doing 6+...I am still thinking about what chip to get but it's quite expensive game ;)
To your PC Mark question - forget about it! When you have ever benched PC Mark you should know, that running i7 without HT is actually faster compared to running all 8 threads! So maybe the 2 additional "real" cores might get a small improvement but this bench is still more related to the storage systems you are using ;)



I never heard gulftown "Q3FE" cannot bench 4.5G+ vantage. I bet your cpu is another batch or Q2VW??

ASUS Bios has some problem with high uncore and high memory speed. Maybe you use ASUS mobos?

[Massman]

So maybe the 2 additional "real" cores might get a small improvement but this bench is still more related to the storage systems you are using ;)

Not really. PCMark05 scales upto 4 threads, not higher.

[SoF]

I never heard gulftown "Q3FE" cannot bench 4.5G+ vantage. I bet your cpu is another batch or Q2VW??

ASUS Bios has some problem with high uncore and high memory speed. Maybe you use ASUS mobos?

we tested gigabyte and asus - all the same. we just got new bios 1 or 2 days ago with which you can finally unlock Q3E2. Q3E2 is quite unknown yet but seems to be a bad clocker. Trying to get Q3FE now, which should do way better (but seems to be a lot more expensive) Q2VW sucks due to the fixed multi but I already saw this one 4.2 priming.

[Berk]

we tested gigabyte and asus - all the same. we just got new bios 1 or 2 days ago with which you can finally unlock Q3E2. Q3E2 is quite unknown yet but seems to be a bad clocker. Trying to get Q3FE now, which should do way better (but seems to be a lot more expensive) Q2VW sucks due to the fixed multi but I already saw this one 4.2 priming.

Could you please send me the Asus bios.

[Andre]

we tested gigabyte and asus - all the same. we just got new bios 1 or 2 days ago with which you can finally unlock Q3E2. Q3E2 is quite unknown yet but seems to be a bad clocker. Trying to get Q3FE now, which should do way better (but seems to be a lot more expensive) Q2VW sucks due to the fixed multi but I already saw this one 4.2 priming.


Q3E2 is early sample. Some are locked multi for Q3E2, so you need lucky to over 30X multi.

Q3FE is the best batch I ever had.

[movieman]

After hearing of your 6386 Peter i just had to register to say congrats!
After seeing the bloomfields being mostly limited to the high 5000 range who'd have thought someone would take a 6 core this high this soon..
Congratulations!:clap:

[GFDuke]

To your PC Mark question - forget about it! When you have ever benched PC Mark you should know, that running i7 without HT is actually faster compared to running all 8 threads! So maybe the 2 additional "real" cores might get a small improvement but this bench is still more related to the storage systems you are using ;)

I would agree that pcm05 is highly storage related, but there is a fair amount of cpu stability dependency. The fact that he's over 6ghz would make a great deal of difference. If there wasn't some degree of cpu dependency then why would we be using Phase, Dice, LN2 etc. to take our cpu's to 5+ghz for the bench?

[Neo4ever]

hello. whre do i get a bios for my 760 classified for a Q3E2? I only have FF. the bios from the entire post doesnt work for me. regards

[k|ngp|n]

sweet boss, im ready for ya

Gonna bring my lucky SLi shirt for our final sessions even though were benching red, I expect u to do the same. p:p

[Karmakazi]

I would agree that pcm05 is highly storage related, but there is a fair amount of cpu stability dependency. The fact that he's over 6ghz would make a great deal of difference. If there wasn't some degree of cpu dependency then why would we be using Phase, Dice, LN2 etc. to take our cpu's to 5+ghz for the bench?

I dont think he is implying that cpu speed doesnt matter. He was saying it runs faster without HT turned on, since pcmark only can utilize 4 cores.

[Berk]

we tested gigabyte and asus - all the same. we just got new bios 1 or 2 days ago with which you can finally unlock Q3E2. Q3E2 is quite unknown yet but seems to be a bad clocker. Trying to get Q3FE now, which should do way better (but seems to be a lot more expensive) Q2VW sucks due to the fixed multi but I already saw this one 4.2 priming.

Please share the Asus and Giga bios with us.

This is my Q2WV running on a Gigabyte Extreme

http://www.dadepc.com/wprime_q2wv.jpg

This is my first experience with Gigabyte. Any suggestions on bios settings would be appreciated.

[Shammy]

pls guys only pm me if you have Q3FE, not going to work backwards for Q3E2 and Q2WV.

[Neo4ever]

wtf... => no i9 benches with classified...

[Chri$ch]

@ shammy,

nice, last week you told me that i get a bios for Q3E2 CPU if i buy a EVGA Board and now have i a Board and get no Bios? :rolleyes:

[Shammy]

@ shammy,

nice, last week you told me that i get a bios for Q3E2 CPU if i buy a EVGA Board and now have i a Board and get no Bios? :rolleyes:

i sent you the bios for the latest gulftown.
Why make it out that I OWE you a bios?

[Slovnaft]

sham, will IMC performance follow Lynnfield's improvement?

[Shammy]

you mean the 2600+ stuff? no i dont think so

[Gatman]

That stuff is all fluff anyways. 2300-2400 is where it's at.

[kabauterman]

Hello Guys,

I also feel a little bit pissed if I hear there is no support for Q3E2 CPUs
On one of the last pages you said the BIOS supports all Q3XX CPUs...

whats the problem to get the support for this one kind of CPU is the BIOS?
If ASUS and GB still have the Support for this CPU is there BIOS why can't EVGA have it?

[Shammy]

if you want to post complaints please post this at EVGA Tech Forums, this is Kingpincooling forums. Thanks.

[Neo4ever]

thanks a lot. it must be very difficult to implement microcode... :shrug:

[Oj0]

Guys, this is unreleased hardware, be thankful that it works AT ALL. Support will probably become more widespread as launch date draws nearer.

[Neo4ever]

we hope so. ;)

[Karmakazi]

Yeah this really isnt the place to complain. Shamino is nice enough to give everyone sneak peeks and beta bios and such. A thank you should be in order... not b1tching.

Remember he doesnt run evga ;)

[Kal-EL]

Thank YOU Peter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:) :) :) :)

[Andre]

Hello Guys,

I also feel a little bit pissed if I hear there is no support for Q3E2 CPUs
On one of the last pages you said the BIOS supports all Q3XX CPUs...

whats the problem to get the support for this one kind of CPU is the BIOS?
If ASUS and GB still have the Support for this CPU is there BIOS why can't EVGA have it?



if evga support Q3FE uncore 5000+, why haven't ASUS and GA only 3200? oh, I feel a little bit pissed if AUSS and GA cannot support gulftown well.

[kabauterman]

if evga support Q3FE uncore 5000+, why haven't ASUS and GA only 3200? oh, I feel a little bit pissed if AUSS and GA cannot support gulftown well.

oh man :rofl: I don't talk about how good ASUS or GB supports this CPUs
I don't have ASUS and GB Boards here, only Classified.

But If Sham wrote all Q3XXX CPUs are supportet and it isn't thats not so nice...

you don't understand me?

Ok enoght here, Sham is right, this isn't EVGA support corner

[Berk]

I spoke with eVga support and they seemed to be very willing to create a bios to support the Q2WV chip that I have. They surprised me with their interest in providing me with a working bios, especially since it is unreleased. I spoke with ASUS and they were totally unwilling to help me at all. I'm very impressed with the eVga support team.

I'm looking for a Q3FE. If anybody knows where I can get one please PM me.

[Oj0]

Just remember that even if he DID run evga he's under no obligation to give you support for a chip that isn't due for a while still ;)

[Raja@ASUS]

Wow, can't believe the moaning. Is Intel officially selling these CPU's? I don't think so. A quick couple of phone calls will send a few backsides twitching if thse processors are being purchased via dodgy channels (I don't think everyone in this thread that's got one acquired it properly so to speak). Unless people want that to happen I'd back off and give Sham some credit for providing the whole community with some hope of what's to come in the future.

[Expat GriZ]

Wow, can't believe the moaning. Is Intel officially selling these CPU's? I don't think so. A quick couple of phone calls will send a few backsides twitching if thse processors are being purchased via dodgy channels (I don't think everyone in this thread that's got one acquired it properly so to speak). Unless people want that to happen I'd back off and give Sham some credit for providing the whole community with some hope of what's to come in the future.

+1 Well said.:clap: Be grateful you even have the opportunity to play with toys like this that us mere mortals have to wait for and then pay HUGE $$$ for.

[chispy]

Wow, can't believe the moaning. Is Intel officially selling these CPU's? I don't think so. A quick couple of phone calls will send a few backsides twitching if thse processors are being purchased via dodgy channels (I don't think everyone in this thread that's got one acquired it properly so to speak). Unless people want that to happen I'd back off and give Sham some credit for providing the whole community with some hope of what's to come in the future.

This :up:

[Slovnaft]

Sooooo

Back OT anyone with a gulftown that doesn't mind a houseguest? :rolleyes::D

[Karmakazi]

Sooooo

Back OT anyone with a gulftown that doesn't mind a houseguest? :rolleyes::D

Or Two :plol:

[Chri$ch]

if evga support Q3FE uncore 5000+, why haven't ASUS and GA only 3200? oh, I feel a little bit pissed if AUSS and GA cannot support gulftown well.
high uncore isn´t a problem with asus boards....

just air cooled @ ~20°C room temp

http://img5.abload.de/img/230bclk-cpuzo8ha.png

i think with dice or ln2 is much more possible ;)

[Slovnaft]

high uncore isn´t a problem with asus boards....


i think with dice or ln2 is much more possible ;)

Really? I dont.

How much load do you think that multiplexed joke of a buck can handle? 300W? 400W?

Now how much load would you suppose gulftown draws benching Vantage or 06 cpu test at 6ghz?

I'll give you a hint: at 5GHz and 1.6V bloomfield by itself draws around 400W in vantage CPU test on R2E. There's are good reasons why both classified as well as the corporate attitude it represents are so superior.

[Andre]

high uncore isn´t a problem with asus boards....

just air cooled @ ~20°C room temp

http://img5.abload.de/img/230bclk-cpuzo8ha.png

i think with dice or ln2 is much more possible ;)



Did you test full loading? Screenshot is not really stable. Waiting for your LN2 results.

[Chri$ch]

@ andre

you won´t see ln2 results from me, i am not that "xtreme" ;) :D

i test short wprime

http://www.abload.de/img/wprime-235bclk04e4.png

edit: argh problems with pic hoster <- resolved.

[Andre]

@ andre

you won´t see ln2 results from me, i am not that "xtreme" ;) :D

i test short wprime


edit: argh problems with pic hoster <- resolved.




good..my Q3FE sucks for uncore and memory speed on R2E. Maybe cold bug uncore or something. I will try new gulftown bios for P6T6.

[Raja@ASUS]

If you can A/B performance and max CPU clocks between Classified and P6T6 Andre that would be cool.

[MaadDaawg]

SO, who do I write to to get me a Gulftown ??? Seems like everyone's got one already :( Tain't fair I tell ya, tain't fair :pmad:

[Karmakazi]

Well you have to write a BIG check to someone withone :plol:

[Berk]

Well you have to write a BIG check to someone withone :plol:

I wouldn't mind doing that if "someone" would offer me one :)

[Chiller]

i'm waiting for myn gulfy,
hope in the next weeks to expect one for benching with 2x asus mars and 4x gtx285 classified's

[Kal-EL]

sweet dealio Chiller :D

[Chiller]

hope the scores also sweet............

[Karmakazi]

Nice chiller! did you get a Q3FE gulfie?

[Chiller]

normally next week was the message, i hope so.

[Overshocked]

Hmmm.... noticed your using the e762.

Any improvements for CPU overclocks with the 762 vs the 760?

Mebe ill have to drop another $400 on the 762...:rofl:

[TONY GAL]

does anyone trying to pass the bios to E760 s61d ?:)

[Chiller]

is there a bios version for the classified e759 to work with Westmere ????

[MrCape]

does anyone trying to pass the bios to E760 s61d ?:)

I am using this bios, seems great.

[Chiller]

and on the E759 with westmere ??

anybody ??

[Chiller]

pls guys only pm me if you have Q3FE, not going to work backwards for Q3E2 and Q2WV.

Q3QR on E759 bios ?

does Westmere also works then?

[road-runner]

Was going to try the S61D, flashed the 760 from a CD like I have done before, it flashed but now wont boot, I get F2 error on the LCD. :shrug:

[Chiller]

maybe cpu not supported, with cpu you put in the socket ?

[Berk]

http://www.dadepc.com/gulftown.jpg

http://www.dadepc.com/gulftown_hyperpi.jpg

http://www.dadepc.com/gulftown_superpi.jpg

http://www.dadepc.com/gulftown_wprime.jpg

Now if I can get evga to modify the bios to allow a little more time to recognize my KVM keyboard, I'll be good to go.

[road-runner]

maybe cpu not supported, with cpu you put in the socket ?

I never took it out, W3520 before the flash and its still in there...

[Chiller]

strange, bios reset after flash ?
battery removed and placed again?

[road-runner]

strange, bios reset after flash ?
battery removed and placed again?

Yes tried all that, I have it boxed up now for RMA...

[Chiller]

you can also get the bios chip separatly, just change the chip.

and second, the asus rampage 2 extreme has two bios chips where you can load two different bios versions on.

in your case just place the jumper on the other bios version and try to boot on that one, and try then recovery flash.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2cp7olx.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/anlpcl.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/15objmf.jpg

[Chiller]

OOHHHHH sorry, i see that you got a Classified E760, sorry.

but you can also get a seperated bios chip to replce it with a new one :

classified's bios chip's (http://stores.shop.ebay.nl/BIOS-Service-Center_BIOS-Chips-EVGA_W0QQ_fsubZ296318013QQ_sasiZ1QQ_sidZ56751303QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322)

Classified e760 bios chip (http://www.bios-service-center.com/product_info.php?cPath=146_291&products_id=6108)

RMA takes a few weeks or so.
This is maybe faster for you?

order then 2 or 3 chips in case you flash it and don't boot.
bios chip E760

[road-runner]

OOHHHHH sorry, i see that you got a Classified E760, sorry.

but you can also get a seperated bios chip to replce it with a new one :

classified's bios chip's (http://stores.shop.ebay.nl/BIOS-Service-Center_BIOS-Chips-EVGA_W0QQ_fsubZ296318013QQ_sasiZ1QQ_sidZ56751303QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322)

Classified e760 bios chip (http://www.bios-service-center.com/product_info.php?cPath=146_291&products_id=6108)

RMA takes a few weeks or so.
This is maybe faster for you?

order then 2 or 3 chips in case you flash it and don't boot.
bios chip E760


Thanks for the info, yes I have the classified e760. I already dropped it of at UPS. I hope they will fix it, I saw that RMA is no good if the serial number sticker is missing. If I remember correctly it was right in the way of something so I pulled it off...

[Chiller]

damn, now i got a Q3QR after bios flash, swap cpu en boot :

i get FF

can somebody help me to get it working on E759 and/or E760 ????

[rbuass]

Nice forum guys.
Please can somebody share good BIOS compatible Gulftown and Westmere to a Classified 760 and to a Classified 4 Way?
If its possible...powered to overclocking...lol
Thanks in advance ;)

[Chiller]

westmere doesn't work on Classified, only gigabyte ex58-extreme and REX2.

classified only support Gulftown Q3FE and Q3QP

[rbuass]

That s a pity, i have to change to a R2E
Have you a R2E Bios Westmere's compatible?

Is many more easy to change the motherboard than the processor....lol

And please; if somebody haves a EVGA Classified's 4Way Bios compatible to a Q3QP, please share.
;)



Thanks in advance

[FireRx]

if the Q3QR doesn't work on EVGA Classified's people will be PISSED. Both EVGA, and Intel will burn! LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/firerx/Sparta-1.gif

Note: Nvm, the one I want is Q3QP so I'm good

[Chiller]

Q3QP and Q3FE are the only real Gulftown's,
the rest is Westmere-ep (Xeon version and locked)

i got E760, E759 and E762 and the Q3QP's are working great on them.

[FireRx]

do I need to bother with the beta Bios, or does S22D work fine with the new CPU?

[Chiller]

s22D don't work with Gulftown or westmere

The bios version for Gulftown isn't official

use the bios versions Shamino posted here on the forum, i think even in this tread

[FireRx]

Can I pre update a bios for the Core i9's that's currently using a Core i7? Or should I wait?

[Chiller]

i notised that when you update your bios for gulftown, you will have no or very poor OC possibilities with a normal i7.

board doesn't work 100% then.

i should say wait untill you have a gulftown.

Asus anonced new bios versions for their mobo's for Gulftown :

P6X58D Premium (BIOS versie 0222)
P6TD Deluxe (0209)
P6T Deluxe V2 (0704)
P6T Deluxe (1804)
P6T SE (0608)
P6T (0904)
Rampage II Extreme (1639)
Rampage II GENE (1033)

[FireRx]

chiller, how do you change you monikar from "Ambient" to "SUb-Zero". I'm missing the how to in the user CP.

[Chiller]

the amount posts you have here., i didn't change anything.

good that you say it about my user cp, i forget to update my signature, new memory en time for Wprime's

[road-runner]

Which bios fixed the 222 blck limit in the classified 760?

[sofos1990]

Thought it was S61A :)

[Chiller]

i though it was S61J, because i get Bclock 225 on W3540

[TONY GAL]

no my friend the first bios is s61a to pass the 222 bclk:)

[road-runner]

i though it was S61J, because i get Bclock 225 on W3540

Flashed to this one, that was a mistake, cant overclock at all hardly C1 errors everything is gone crazy. Wish I knew what bios was on there. Thats all for me for awhile...

Edit: It did not like me loading the old profile, I got it working now....

[Expat GriZ]

Well, while we are on the topic of best bios for high bclk......which one would you guys recommend for the 759?? :shrug: I'm almost ready to go back to 224 as I have just tried 227 and the latest one S22D and up to 200 great at low volts, but after that its just a wall. This is with a 3540 which I KNOW can go much much higher. Your suggestions or results would be greatly appreciated.

[FireRx]

S22d is working fine for me
Just don't expect to load your old profiles on the new bios.

[road-runner]

S22d is working fine for me
Just don't expect to load your old profiles on the new bios.

Yea that does not work.... :rofl:

[axel08]

hello
I'm new to the forum and French, so excuse my translation, here I am looking for a bios for evga X58 e759 other than IX58S230.bin if there is, thank you all

[FireRx]

ftp://ftp.evga.com/bios/E759S22D.bin

That's the Latest from EVGA

[Chiller]

but that one doesn't work FOR Gulftown,
he's asking if there's a new one for the Gulftown then the IX58S230.bin

[FireRx]

ah SOrry,
where are you guys getting this Gulf's I want one.

[BOBO]

Which of the bios will work with the e762 and q3qp?

[Chiller]

look at my previous post above.

[Evocarlos]

westmere doesn't work on Classified, only gigabyte ex58-extreme and REX2.

classified only support Gulftown Q3FE and Q3QP

but westmere is gulftown .. westmere is only the name of the 32nm build process

nehalem = 45nm -cpu codename (bloomfield) i7
westmere = 32nm -cpu codename (gulftown) i7 or i9 what ever its goign to be called :)
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/evocarlos1/i7-i5-i3.jpg

[Chiller]

westmere is the Xeon version with locked multiplier
Gulftown is with unlocked multiplier and they are both on 32Nm.
The Bios versions for the Classified mobo's only work for the Gulftown's and not for the Westmere's,
maybe in the future Evga will make bios versions that also will support Westmere-EP's, who knows?

But for now , only Q3FE and Q3QP will work on classified's.
There's also a 3.2Ghz chip going around that's called Q3QF, and it's also a Gulftown codename, no Westmere Xeon.
So maybe that chip will also work.



This is a westmere, and work on REX2 , gigabyte ex58-ex etc

http://i48.tinypic.com/28usi20.png

and this is a Gulftown Q3FE unlocked multi what will work on Classified :

http://i50.tinypic.com/118q5a1.jpg

And this is a Gulftown Q3QP unlocked multiplier what ALSO will work on Classified's :

http://i46.tinypic.com/2w7qwxc.jpg

SEE the difference ?

Look at the Codenames of the chips.

[r1ch]

*snip*

Chiller, you're not quite right.

Westmere is the umbrella name of the 32nm tick process just like Nehalem was the umbrella name for 45nm tock.

Bloomfield and Lynnfield were both "Nehalem" just like Gulftown and Westmere-EP are both "Westmere".

Do you see the difference?

[Chiller]

it's going about the bios versions that westmere doesn't work, and with Gulftown it does momentairly.

everything is Nehalem yes.

But now i try to make a difference for explain that westmere doesn't work at this moment on Classified's mobo's.

Chiller, you're not quite right.

Westmere is the umbrella name of the 32nm tick process just like Nehalem was the umbrella name for 45nm tock.

Bloomfield and Lynnfield were both "Nehalem" just like Gulftown and Westmere-EP are both "Westmere".

Do you see the difference?

both Gulftown, westmere is just the Xeon version.


just like you have i7 920 and a W3540 (Xeon version)
i7 975 and a X3580 (Xeon version).

[r1ch]

*snip*

Page 14.
http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://download.intel.com/pressroom/kits/32nm/westmere/32nm_WSM_Press.pdf

The reason a certain CPU doesn't work in the classified is not because it's a Westmere (which includes Gulftown), but because the Westmere-EP micro codes haven't been added to a new BIOS yet.

If Westmere (in the form of Gulftown) works, then there's no reason why Westmere (in the form of Westmere-EP) won't work in the future.

[Evocarlos]

everything is Nehalem yes.

both Gulftown, westmere is just the Xeon version.


just like you have i7 920 and a W3540 (Xeon version)
i7 975 and a X3580 (Xeon version).

but what i was trying to say
not every thing is nehelem only the
i7 / xeon
920 /x3540
940 /x35xx
950 /x35xx
975 /x35xx
is nehelem build tek and cpu code name bloomfield
nehelem is what intel calls the 45nm build process

the new 32mn chips are going under the new process name westmere

just trying to show you the way it works

as rich said tick/tock

tick = new processor
tock = die shrink

:build name: nm spec : cpu codename :
nehalem = 45nm - (bloomfield) i7 (tick)
westmere = 32nm - (gulftown) i7 or i9 (tock)

[Chiller]

that's what i'm saying on previous page (read it),
that in the future maybe westmere also works on classified. (microcoed)

but for now they are not supported.

that's what i'm saying all the time

[Evocarlos]

that's what i'm saying on previous page (read it),
that in the future maybe westmere also works on classified. (microcoed)

but for now they are not supported.

that's what i'm saying all the time

im not on about the bios im merlly saying the way you see the cpu layout is wrong

westmere is 32nm if the chip is 32mn and its here now and its x58 its a gulftown
as before it was
nehelem is 45nm if the chip is 45nm and its x58 its a bloomfield
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/09/idf-day-one-otellini/ticktock.jpg

[r1ch]

westmere is the Xeon version with locked multiplier
The Bios versions for the Classified mobo's only work for the Gulftown's and not for the Westmere's
it's going about the bios versions that westmere doesn't work, and with Gulftown it does momentairly.

Substitute Westmere for Westmere-EP in all these and you're right.

both Gulftown, westmere is just the Xeon version.

This is wrong, they're not all Gulftown.

They're all Westmere, and Westmere-EP is the xeon version.

I'm making a point of this because by calling it Westmere, you might be confusing people into thinking Gulftown isn't supported, which as you know, it is.

Anyways, apart from calling it Westmere-EP you're right so I think that should be the end of it and back on-topic for the thread. :)

[Shammy]

hell even clarkdale is under the westmere unmbrella

[FireRx]

hell even clarkdale is under the westmere unmbrella

Shammy hook a brotha up!:D Read you PM!

[FireRx]

Hey all, Just FYI , The new Bios is out on the EVGA site for there mobo for the 32nm CPU's.

[TONY GAL]

hallo guys......
any new bios for maximus gene 3?

[Gunslinger]

hallo guys......
any new bios for maximus gene 3?

You'd be better off asking that question here I think: http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1041