Maximus V Formula

[Shammy]

latest M5F BIOS 0095:
http://www.mediafire.com/?z8o2jb7jtzvtnit


Updates Performance table
Adds IGPU Disable option in SA
Adds 'Ignore' option under BCLK Recovery , Ignore = Disabled + BIOS ignores to resume BCLK to BIOS setting during resets so that BCLK adjustments with OCKEY/TurboV does not trigger a full reset @ resets.



ln2 mode enable + extreme ov enable gives 2.4vcore (2.4vcore is a cpu killa, i would not try that) / 2.4vdimm max (do also note that cpus tend to like only high vdimm like 2v when cold. Sometimes high vdimm likes higher VTTDDR)

http://postimage.org/image/7e1rdoknh/

IMC dram offset is the amount of dram voltage the imc sees (not the real dram voltage). it wiull affect stabiluty specially superpi and auto usually works well but for last mhz stability u can go up or down 1 or 2 notches and test the diff.

To run everything frozen the whole day:

With Ivy benching the whole board gets so cold especially with CPU and DRAM on LN2 so some guys may like some pointers in insulation. Here’s my way of doing it:

First remove all heatsinks, cover the whole front and back of board with Vaseline:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/4b2vh.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/4b2vh)

Slightly trickier part comes with regards to the DIMM slots. Brush a decent amount onto them:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/fb585.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/fb585)

Use a hairdryer and melt all on the slots so that you are left with a thin coat in them:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/x2ez6.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/x2ez6)

You should be left with something like this

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/zol9u.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/zol9u)

Next are the rams. It is better if you can remove heat-spreaders and spread Vaseline directly. If unable or you don’t wish to, you can brush on decent amount at the openings and gold fingers:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/cf187.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/cf187)
And then same thing use a hairdryer and melt it all so that it flows into the cracks and crevices.
Before mounting on the rams, wipe off Vaseline from gold fingers of rams with your fingers.

Then cover / stuff the whole board, at the back and the front, with paper towels so that it looks like garbage trash:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/1e6kf.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/1e6kf)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/sgh6p.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/sgh6p)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/sbjj5.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/sbjj5)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/8pm2g.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/8pm2g)

Finally mount on your ram pot

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/m7epm.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/m7epm)

Keep a hairdryer handy nearby, if rams get too cold and stuck at ‘55’ even with safe ‘OC Failed’ mode (always use the 4 second power down to trigger a recovery rather than other methods), remove ram pot and heat rams, pressing reset repeatedly till ‘55’ goes away. Then put ram pot back on.


When pushing PCIE clocks (ie. BCLK) in Multi Card config, as long as BCLK is smaller than 113MHz, it may be best to set Gen 3 Preset under System Agent to Preset 3, whether in Gen 2.0 or 3.0:

[GFDuke]

You like the vaseline. All this time I thought you were an eraser man. Nice method you have there.

[riska]

Art eraser holds the cold so you keep getting the hole board colder and colder..

[Shammy]

0502
http://www.mediafire.com/?yi7uu1r2jueffe4

add spi booster
improves clear cmos
fix TCL12 boot problem

[Hondacity]

vaseline done right :D

clr_cmos feature is awesome!

[Splave]

is this thread aimed at my kamikaze ln2 mem pour routine? lmao :)

[Shammy]

is this thread aimed at my kamikaze ln2 mem pour routine? lmao :)

why u so crever you?

[Splave]

I have a mem pot on order but dont want to wait for it, so I have been rummaging through the kitchen and best I can find is a metal cup measure with some change in it rofl

any ideas for a makeshift mem pot great shambino?

[NoGuru]

I have a mem pot on order but dont want to wait for it, so I have been rummaging through the kitchen and best I can find is a metal cup measure with some change in it rofl

any ideas for a makeshift mem pot great shambino?

I know a few guys at OCN use makeshift RAM pots out of Aluminum foil, or as the Europeans call it, Al-u-miniume :rofl:

[Janus67]

Yep one or two from OCF did aluminum foil pots as well

[Splave]

I was thinking something with a bit more mass though :)

[Raja@ASUS]

Shambo uses a GPU pot balanced on top of the heatspreaders.

[K404]

Here was my attempt at cold RAM. Did it work? Not really. Was it cold enough to kill the board? Why, yes. Yes it was. My insulation wasn't as good as I thought :(

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/K404/DSCF0525.jpg

[Dumo]

Found another use for venom pot..
base is not wide enough, but its kinda work. Still waiting for my pot:)

[hiwa]

you want to see how crazy is M5F? look at this board after 6 hours mem benching, i was tired to bench but seems board want to continue again....
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1046/img0014hc.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6084/3286u.jpg


Highest Bandwidth we ever seen right? the crazy TridentX 2800CL11 with hynix ICs TIGHT timings, look at that READ


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7228/bandwisthwr.jpg

[Splave]

Here was my attempt at cold RAM. Did it work? Not really. Was it cold enough to kill the board? Why, yes. Yes it was. My insulation wasn't as good as I thought :(


Respect.


going to rig something today, will post results

EDIT:

froze some mem for XS 5ghz challenge, was pretty fun!

http://i.imgur.com/iJJve.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/m7SUg.jpg
^LMAO gemini turbo lol would not recomend took full pot to get mems to -40c then I had to pour around at the sides to go lower

http://i.imgur.com/pL6Us.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/7fGFU.jpg
^this pic is for shammy to make him proud ;)

Can maybe go a little tighter in some spots but CAS 6 = 23 on boot, tRCD 10 = 23 on boot. Not sure if it is just my chip or the mem will have to test another.

[Shammy]

last pic = :up:

cotton buds = :down: girly man.... :(

dont think tcl can stop at 23, go boot at ~ 98bclk and up it to 100 in OS

[Splave]

^thanks for the tip, going to flash to new bios and try again as well.

do not pick on my buds ;)

[Shammy]

^LMAO gemini turbo lol would not recomend took full pot to get mems to -40c then I had to pour around at the sides to go lower


do u gain memory from lower than -40C? just curious about other sets of PSCs.

[Splave]

I tried to stay around -40c at first but would BSOD during waza, went to -55 and a little time at -60c when I got excited during run but completed. Probe was positioned on outside side of mem sink about 1/2 inch in so that is was reading the warmest part, middle was probably more like -60c all the time.

[hiwa]

3GHz memory is really easy on Air with right mem and cpu on this board
we sure this board is normal? :D


3000MHz Pi8m
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7949/screen001jl.jpg

3050MHz Pi2m
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4214/screen003zo.jpg

[Janus67]

wow your CPU has one monster IMC.

[Massman]

Is that with "hiwa cpu" ? :D

[Splave]

hiwa what is max 32m? and 1t :)
my chip 2610mhz max mem lmao!

[Dumo]

Awesome cpu and mem. Hiwa:up:

[hiwa]

Is that with "hiwa cpu" ? :D

yes :)

splave still need to try

[Raja@ASUS]

hiwa what is max 32m? and 1t :)
my chip 2610mhz max mem lmao!

Mine is DDR3-2600 dead, anything higher and it fails irrespective of timings.

[hiwa]

hiwa what is max 32m? and 1t :)
my chip 2610mhz max mem lmao!

2933 1t ok for 32m :up:

[hiwa]

hiwa what is max 32m? and 1t :)
my chip 2610mhz max mem lmao!

2933 1t ok for 32m :up:

[Splave]

http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/3732768+_3af82752f6304ffdda12fa02fd01e629.jpg

[Splave]

Hiwa you may have Trident pot, but I have wishing well pot
http://i.imgur.com/enubH.jpg

ROFL! (Vince please ship my pot soon haha)

[BenchZowner]

.^
/|\
''|''

This guy must be very desperate to LN2 his RAM :D

[NoGuru]

That pot is Money!....lol, literally.

[hiwa]

haha expensive pot u made splave.

[Janus67]

Pretty brilliant to add the surface area. Well played!

[Shammy]

When pushing PCIE clocks (ie. BCLK) in Multi Card config, as long as BCLK is smaller than 113MHz, it may be best to set Gen 3 Preset under System Agent to Preset 3, whether in Gen 2.0 or 3.0

[Splave]

new cpu from RMA Intel, is giving post Code d0, swapped to a different chip and it went away so I swapped the "RMA" chip back in and reads d0 again....Can I assume it is dead? lol


I did notice that some vaseline got in the socket but I got it all out with air and heat.


Also chip that was running 6.8ghz now has cold bug out of nowhere on second try, hangs 55 which I assume the mem controller does not like full pot now? Strange.
Im sick of ivy already lol

[Raja@ASUS]

They do deteriorate it seems. Mine is reading b7 now no matter what.

[NoGuru]

I had a chip only last a few hours and it stopped posting. So it's very possible.

[Splave]

Guess I should have been using rolls of quarters for my mem pot not pennies, this thing is a BEAST

http://i.imgur.com/Eh7Ei.jpg

Until you hold one in your hands pics dont do any justice. Thanks vince!

[SoF]

They do deteriorate it seems. Mine is reading b7 now no matter what.

lol yeah let's collect boot-codes of dead CPUs...

"00" - everybody that pushed several IVY to past 1.9V will know...completely DEAD
"b7" - I think I had one, killed by 1.9 iirc
"62" - my new 218 cherry girl not wanting 1.84V on pifast...

...always something new and YES IVY SUCKS...they die much much faster than any chips we had before...22nm is commanding it's tribute...

€: oh and to get on topic somehow: got my MVF laying at home, having some business to do on week-end (work sux) but already shaved off 10s from my 32m time with just a night testing...still 5s missing but mem-presettings seem to have improved a bit or am I wrong and they are the same on MVG and MVF?

spent a lot more time with third timings and that stuff, still it seemed to be a tad faster out of the box...I already like it, still I want the Extreme-Board for propper monitoring (RC Diagram with real time monitoring only on Extreme-Boards? Liked it on my MIVE with Ivy!)

[michael_rw]

Ive only benched Ivy on dice so far but ln2 once my new tek fat gets here (ahemm*vince)
so basically anything 1.9v or more is killing these chips? if not killing, then degrading and/or causing CB?

[Hellshealer]

when will the MVF be availible in AUS?

[Mikecdm]

I'm just awaiting the day that I can buy one. Looking good so far.

[SoF]

Does 3x 580 actually work on this board? manual only says something about 3x CFX but only 2x SLI...


...and I can't get 3 ASUS 580 GTX working on this board with any drivers...SLI is perfect with all - dafuq nvidia drivers (285, 295, 301 WHQWERTZ tested...)?

[Shammy]

no
nvidia drivers do not allow x4 lanes to run sli

[SoF]

would 590 GTX + 580 run then?!
and for what does it have plx chip?

[Shammy]

would it run on ANY MB at all?
that plx chip is for SB lanes not CPUNB lanes

[SoF]

ok, but sb 2600k doesn't even show the 3rd card correctly ^^

[Aristidis]

I have some cold bug issues with that board with a tested cpu at gene with no problems benching full pot -190.
With formula I have cold bug at -145 trying any possible setting with no difference. I think that is IMC related problem because I get post code 55 and after post code 00 and lower temps everything is ok.
I have also tried bios 221 and 502 but nothing has change.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

[Splave]

We get this problem too last week. Try your chip again in a different board but most likely the Imc is wounded...we did this to 6 chips. Were you freezing rams too? Also how long were you cold before this started?

[Aristidis]

Thanks Splave i'll try another chip today. I havent freeze rams yet. It was started in the first cold

[Aristidis]

Tryied and a second chip and with this one was a litle better but still cb, i think that is a mobo problem :(

[SoF]

would it run on ANY MB at all?

What about the Formula with some little driver modification http://www.kingpincooling.com/forum/images/smilies/pirate/laugh.gif

http://www.awardfabrik.de/images/stories/sof_oc_stories/3x_gpu_vantage_46346.JPG

[Shammy]

Tryied and a second chip and with this one was a litle better but still cb, i think that is a mobo problem :(

can u try to increase data/ctl vref slightly- 0.505v ~ 0.510v ?

[Aristidis]

Thanks Shammy i'll try that too

[Aristidis]

Not any luck with that too tryied 0.4900, 0.5050, 0.5100, 0.5150 nothing, this time i'm sure it's a mobo problem. i want an extreme :)

[Maximous]

Looks like an awsomme mobo:). 0502 the latest bios for this one?

[SoF]

Not any luck with that too tryied 0.4900, 0.5050, 0.5100, 0.5150 nothing, this time i'm sure it's a mobo problem. i want an extreme :)

I heard stummerwinter got one and will bench LN2 next week - he got 3 monster CPUs from me so let's hope for no such issues.

Wonder if this is related to some certain boards like with the Gene. I heard a few people with CB/B issues.

Hope my one can take the cold - testing in 2 or 3 weeks...

[Aristidis]

I heard stummerwinter got one and will bench LN2 next week - he got 3 monster CPUs from me so let's hope for no such issues.

Wonder if this is related to some certain boards like with the Gene. I heard a few people with CB/B issues.

Hope my one can take the cold - testing in 2 or 3 weeks...

I hope that too :) Now i have to wait for extreme more than one month :(

[Shammy]

I hope that too :) Now i have to wait for extreme more than one month :(

try transmiutter slews set to 2, receiver slews set to 3

[hiwa]

With 50 cpus we tried at computex with 3 different m5f never had cb problem but cbb depend on cpu, bad one was like -135.

Could you list tricks you tried :D maybe helps other people.

[Aristidis]

Not any improovement this is for sure a mobo problem. CBB of cpus depends on bclock. With this board and 108 bclock CBB was exactly same with CB around -165 with both my cpus. Even inside windows under load after -165 i get freeze or blue screen. You can bench at -165 but at -166 you get freeze no mater what settings you have made, very strange.

[Splave]

so you tried a new board and there is no problem?

[Aristidis]

In another board both cpu's have no cb problems test them on a giga ud5. But also before on Gene they havent any cb problem but unfortunatly my gene has lost first ddr chanel and pci express chanel :(

[Splave]

well atleast your chip is okay! boards are expendable ;)

[SoF]

Not any improovement this is for sure a mobo problem. CBB of cpus depends on bclock. With this board and 108 bclock CBB was exactly same with CB around -165 with both my cpus. Even inside windows under load after -165 i get freeze or blue screen. You can bench at -165 but at -166 you get freeze no mater what settings you have made, very strange.

tried very low vccsa / vccio?

I had some issues past 1.1V on 1 or 2 chips (starting to struggle when raising the voltages) but 1.0(2)5 vccsa and 1.075 io was fine for them.
not that good when you want to push mem but just out of interest if it runs fullpot.

I had so many CPUs now and not a single one refused fullpot once it was running. Either very golden hand with IB or the only one running such low imc voltages :p

[Aristidis]

tried very low vccsa / vccio?

I had some issues past 1.1V on 1 or 2 chips (starting to struggle when raising the voltages) but 1.0(2)5 vccsa and 1.075 io was fine for them.
not that good when you want to push mem but just out of interest if it runs fullpot.

I had so many CPUs now and not a single one refused fullpot once it was running. Either very golden hand with IB or the only one running such low imc voltages :p

I never push VSSA and IO voltages to much, usualy around 1.0500 and 1.1125
no difference for puching mem, for both cpu imc it's ok with those voltages

[Splave]

any fix for keeping the iGPU from coming on yet? or is it not even possible? :) thanks sham

[Shammy]

any fix for keeping the iGPU from coming on yet? or is it not even possible? :) thanks sham

yes coming later

[michael_rw]

just got my M5F...

when i install my RAM into slots A2 and B2 i get POST code 55 and no boot
one stick in A2 and evrything is fine
one stick in A1 and the other in A2, everything is fine

but they should be in A2 and B2... wonder why im getting 55 POST code.. tried 2 sets of RAM too and both do the same thing

guess ill update BIOS and see what happens.. hope its not a bad dimm slot

[Raja@ASUS]

Reseat CPU, clear CMOS and try again. What DRAM are you using?

[basco]

i had lot of trouble with 55 too,but if i set trrd to more then 4 its ok.

[Shammy]

any fix for keeping the iGPU from coming on yet? or is it not even possible? :) thanks sham

for m5f
Adds:
IGPU force disable under System agent config/ graphics config/ option -> internal graphics

http://www.mediafire.com/?shdbwhkkn3ddr6j

[Splave]

^ I could hug your right now lol

[Raja@ASUS]

PDF UEFI Guide:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?hetkzmyi1r2rsx7

[Stelaras]

Thanks !! :)

[michael_rw]

the bios with igpu disable has max vcore and vdimm of 1.920 ... is this supposed to be? i thought it should be 2.400

[Shammy]

only with ln2 mode enable + extreme ov enabled

[michael_rw]

got it thx shammy
the dewar is full. its time to grease up the board :D

[michael_rw]

With Ivy benching the whole board gets so cold especially with CPU and DRAM on LN2 so some guys may like some pointers in insulation. Here’s my way of doing it:

First remove all heatsinks, cover the whole front and back of board with Vaseline:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/4b2vh.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/4b2vh)

Keep a hairdryer handy nearby, if rams get too cold and stuck at ‘55’ even with safe ‘OC Failed’ mode (always use the 4 second power down to trigger a recovery rather than other methods), remove ram pot and heat rams, pressing reset repeatedly till ‘55’ goes away. Then put ram pot back on.


shammy, i followed your guide and got something that looks like this:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3679/mvfprep1.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/420/mvfprep2.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7950/mvfprep3.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7391/mvfprep4.jpg


how do you seal the socket area? vaseline on outside of socket is good enough? you can see i put vaseline and then towels. I also make foam piece to put on top of towels..
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8384/mvfprep5.jpg


does all of this look like right? how you did it in your guide?

[Shammy]

thats more than thorough

[Splave]

looks good, dont have to use quite so much vaseline but that wont hurt anything

[michael_rw]

thats more than thorough

looks good, dont have to use quite so much vaseline but that wont hurt anything

lol, oops. Better safe than sorry i suppose..
I will be more conservative next time :D
thanks guys

[michael_rw]

ok so my ratio is stuck at 16x, wont go any higher regardless of what is set in bios.
in OS during multithreaded benchmark, CPU is running at 1600mhz..

i think i read about this problem before but cant find it.

of course i already disable thermal monitor and C-states

[Viss]

Check the slow-mode switch above your ram slots, on = 16x :)

[Gunslinger]

Anyone know the trick to installing Vista on Z77 ? No matter what, once the "loading files" bar reaches 100% I get BSOD 0x0000007E This is with default and optimized default settings. I'm thinking it has to be something set in the BIOS

[Splave]

ahci mode?

[Gunslinger]

ahci, ide it doesn't matter same thing, BSOD

It's not just ROG Z77, it was EVGA, MSI and Asrock as well. :shrug:

[Splave]

any chance you can install on x79 or p67 etc then swap it over

[Gunslinger]

I've got an old P67 install, but I'd really like to do a new one for efficiencie's sake.

[Gyrock]

"Execute disable bit" enabled? If not, try with it enabled. Peter-san told me this hint.

[Gunslinger]

It's the same either way, BSOD.

It's a 60GB Corsair Force GT SSD if it matters.

[StrategosSan]

It's the same either way, BSOD.

It's a 60GB Corsair Force GT SSD if it matters.

I've seen it with an HDD, some "weird imcompatibility" :shrug: Could you try with another SSD/HDD?

[Gunslinger]

I've seen it with an HDD, some "weird imcompatibility" :shrug: Could you try with another SSD/HDD?

That is the next step it seems. Pretty sure I've got a Crucial laying around to try.

What's frustrating is that XP and 7 both installed on this same model SSD without a hiccup.

[michael_rw]

Check the slow-mode switch above your ram slots, on = 16x :)

lol. i thought that was the ln2 mode switch (along with the jumper). ive never owned an ASUS/maximus board before so all these fancy features are overwhelming. Im used to gigabyte boards that, in comparison, are much more plain.

thanks for the tip

[Splave]

That is the next step it seems. Pretty sure I've got a Crucial laying around to try.

What's frustrating is that XP and 7 both installed on this same model SSD without a hiccup.
It this a normal retail vista or shredded one?

[Massman]

Anyone know the trick to installing Vista on Z77 ? No matter what, once the "loading files" bar reaches 100% I get BSOD 0x0000007E This is with default and optimized default settings. I'm thinking it has to be something set in the BIOS

Wild guess here: your Vista installation doesn't have the drivers for the sata port your drive is connected to?

[Gunslinger]

It this a normal retail vista or shredded one?

Full blown install, the OS image is from my TechNet account.

Wild guess here: your Vista installation doesn't have the drivers for the sata port your drive is connected to?

It does the same from all the SATA ports on the board (MVE) :shrug:

Also tried on my Crucial C300, same thing.

[GFDuke]

Gunny, have you tried a hdd? Could it be the ssd firmware?

[Gunslinger]

Gunny, have you tried a hdd? Could it be the ssd firmware?

What's a hdd? :rofl:

[michael_rw]

as this is my first ASUS/ROG board, I'm a little unfamiliar with the tweaking softwares available for benching. With gigabyte boards we use Gigabyte Tweak Launcher, EVGA uses E-LEET Tuner, etc.
After you guys boot into windows and pull down your temps, do you use Turbo V Evo for tweaking, or do most people prefer to use the ROG Connect feature with a laptop/second computer? ROG Connect seems like a good option as it wont use up any resources on the benching rig...

thoughts?

[Gunslinger]

I use ROG connect and a laptop, very easy and quick to use.

[Deux]

ROG connect here also, couldn't even get TurboV to let me adjust voltage :shrug:

[michael_rw]

I use ROG connect and a laptop, very easy and quick to use.

ROG connect here also, couldn't even get TurboV to let me adjust voltage :shrug:

yeah i ended up using rog connect to bench yesterday.. it went very smoothly. i really like it.

However, I'm having trouble getting BCLK to adjust.. when i hit "apply" it changes in ROG Connect (on remote PC), but not on the benching rig (host PC). This is using XP.
I tried it today on windows 7 and it works just fine. Any suggestions on getting it to adjust properly on XP (everything else works, but not BCLK) ??

[fuzz3l]

You need ROG connect plus installed on the xp machine and of course the intel management driver.

[michael_rw]

i hae rog connect plus. like i said, everything else (voltages, CPU multiplier, fan speeds, sensors, etc.) works fine except for BCLK

im positive that i have the latest ME drivers installed but I will double check to be sure

[Stelaras]

Pretty easy board to handle . :D

Quick testing of my new CPU . It can do a bit better but i only had 2 liters of LN2 to test it . No tweaks applied ...

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=582&stc=1&d=1343005234

I have compatibility issues with my keyboard (Logitech Illuminated) .Bios recognize it as 1 keyboard & 1 mouse and i can't enter bios while having attached any boot devices . I have to remove the drives , so it will enter BIOS by itself and after changing settings i plug hdd again and restart .

Other than that , it seems pretty solid . I have to test 32m performance as till now i get slower performance than gene-v .

[SoF]

Me 2 :D

Just that darn IMC on that CPU was coldbugged / not liking 1296 :(

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=583&stc=1&d=1343025215

[Stelaras]

You mean your IMC can't boot higher than 2600Mhz or it's just unstable ?

[FlanK3r]

last BIOS is this ?? (http://www.mediafire.com/?shdbwhkkn3ddr6j)

[SoF]

You mean your IMC can't boot higher than 2600Mhz or it's just unstable ?

very unstable, many times no boot. when raising vtt it coldbugged past 1.15V with "55"...exactly the same setting on another chip ran fine one day before.

[splmann]

I have a problem with my new Formula from Asus .

I tested 3 CPU and alot of Memorys but always i get Postcode 67 ???

[Shammy]

rename cap bios into M5F.CAP and put into Fat formatted usb drive into white usb port and use usb flashback to rescue your bios.

[splmann]

Thank's Sham !

[michael_rw]

I have some cold bug issues with that board with a tested cpu at gene with no problems benching full pot -190.
With formula I have cold bug at -145 trying any possible setting with no difference. I think that is IMC related problem because I get post code 55 and after post code 00 and lower temps everything is ok.
I have also tried bios 221 and 502 but nothing has change.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

i am getting this exact same problem with a new chip i started testing out tonight! yesterday was benching different chip full pot and no problems. This new chip CB at -145 ~ -150. Tried setting vref to .505-.510 like shammy suggested. Tried setting receiver and transmitter slews to 3 and 2 like shammy said. still CB at -145 ~ -150.
I am using the latest bios, going to try 0502 now.

[michael_rw]

no luck with 0502. CB at ~ -145c, freeze in OS, then POST code 55 on reboot, then POST code 00 on every reboot after that until it warms up to about -120c

this chip had no CB on UD5H board. I will reseat the chip tomorrow and see if it goes away. If not, I will try it in UD5H again...


*** ALSO: is there a time limit for how long to keep the board greased up with vaseline?? The board has had vaseline all over it for 1 week.. should i wash it all off and clean it, then reapply new vaseline?? or is it ok still?

[Raja@ASUS]

Vaseline should be fine. You can touch up any parts where components have become exposed due to handling etc.

[michael_rw]

if my chip coldbugs at -145 and goes to POST code 55, I assume the CB is because of the IMC..
If that's the case, is it possible there is a specific vccsa or vccio voltage that will get rid of the CB?
I've tried one low, one middle, and one really high voltage for both vccsa and vccio and none have had any effect on the CB... maybe there is some other voltage in between those that will get rid of the CB??

[Splave]

try lowering mem speed? any b7 ever?

[michael_rw]

happens when mem is at stock settings... nope, never seen b7 code...
tweaking PLL/VCCSA/VCCIO won't help most likely?

[Splave]

nope probably not

[michael_rw]

ok i just popped in my other chip, the same chip that did this on full pot 2 days ago on this same board.


http://hwbot.org/image/819240.jpg (http://hwbot.org/image/819240.jpg)

now this chip has CB at -145, on the same M5F board. 2 days ago, no CB. Today, CB.

BOTH chips now have CB at -145c

what the heck is going on?

[michael_rw]

Threw one of the chips back into the UD5H and no CB

However, i found a noticeable amount of vaseline that made its way into the socket on the M5F so i removed all the vaseline with heat gun and washed board in dish washer.
im hoping everything will be back to normal, no more CB. Will test again tomorrow after the board is dry.

[michael_rw]

what does it mean when i go to flash bios and it says "image outdated" ?? it does this for any bios i try.. should i use different method of flashing instead of EZ Flash?

[Andre]

bios flash back feature.

[michael_rw]

bios flash back feature.

ok thanks, prepping board for bench now, will try that soon

EDIT: good to go, thanks

[Rosty]

Finally, I got me a formula, and have tested max mhz on memory loose sub at -100 degrees 1.95v at memory
1m
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/rostyhead/1420c61m.jpg

32m
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/rostyhead/32mlsetimings.jpg

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

^ nice job, PSC or BBSE?

[Rosty]

it is PSC :)

[michael_rw]

for mem OC are you guys keeping 2nd VCCIO at AUTO or change it to the same thing as 1st VCCIO?

[Dumo]

^^ Auto

[michael_rw]

^^ Auto

:up:

[JJJC_93]

it is PSC :)


Very nice PSC Rosty. I'm looking forward to subzero memory on my M5F.

[Pt1t]

M5F looks good for 4GB Stick oc :p

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395869_10151093926919940_1072888793_n.jpg

[Deux]

Seem to be having some problems with my formula, stability completely goes out the window above 1.75v and the best seems to be around 1.69v. Tried multiple cpus that I know scale with the higher volts, multiple mounts and just about everything else I can think of.

Happens regardless of temperature, even full pot and with both F1 Gemini and LN2Cooling.com containers.

Any ideas on what I could be doing to cause this? I can't seem to find anything that's changed and I know it used to be fine up to ~2.0v

Board is insulated with vaseline and paper towel, thinking maybe I'll clean it off and try again :shrug:

[Splave]

how tight are you going on the screws?

[Deux]

Pretty tight, springs + spacers, usually have ~2mm between the closest parts of the spacers when mounted.

[Splave]

maybe Vaseline in the socket? I think your idea is good, clean it off and try again

[michael_rw]

even though youve got it nice and tight, is it possible you just arent getting good contact? like if your foam gaskets are giving bad contact, even with everything tight..
..just a thought :up:

[Shammy]

latest M5F BIOS 0095:
http://www.mediafire.com/?z8o2jb7jtzvtnit


Updates Performance table
Adds IGPU Disable option in SA
Adds 'Ignore' option under BCLK Recovery , Ignore = Disabled + BIOS ignores to resume BCLK to BIOS setting during resets so that BCLK adjustments with OCKEY/TurboV does not trigger a full reset @ resets.

[michael_rw]

awesome bios. i like the 'ignore' setting for bclk recovery!

vcore is still off by ~0.02v ... so 1.820v bios is 1.840v with DMM/cpuz

[Maximous]

Cant get the option to change multi in rog connect to work. Its not even listed in there. Ive tried diff versions. 1.06, 1.04 and 1.03 I think. Do I need summet to get this working? rog connect + on host and Ive tried the Engine stuff to.

Input??


Problem solved!

[Maximous]

3218C:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2548759
6868.1 4c/8t

Chip seems good, but having issues with RAM speed. Having trouble with higher speeds then shown in link. Got sum more testing to do, but anyone know what setting I could be missing out on. I tried to go one strap up but got boot problems, often 55 and 23(others not so often). Testing other sets of RAM tomorrow.

[Convicted1]

Cant get the option to change multi in rog connect to work. Its not even listed in there. Ive tried diff versions. 1.06, 1.04 and 1.03 I think. Do I need summet to get this working? rog connect + on host and Ive tried the Engine stuff to.

Input??


Problem solved!

I can't get BCLK to work in RC Tweak...

Tried All the fixes I've seen... Still no luck.

Glad to see you got your problem fixed... Any chance I can ask how?

Maybe it'll help me?

Input from others would be great also...

[Maximous]

The solution for me was actually really simple. I had to boot up with higher bclk to be able to change it with RC Tweakit. At stock (100 bclk) I couldnt change it.

[Convicted1]

Well shoot... That won't help me then...

I'm already booting it at sometimes as much as 112 BCLK...

Thanks though!

[kabauterman]

BLCK in RC Tweak never worked here, not on Gene, Extreme or Formula

what I'm doing wrong?!

[Andre]

Have install ME driver and ROG connect plus?

[kabauterman]

Have install ME driver and ROG connect plus?

ROG Connect Plus on the Host or on the Remote Machine?!

[rbuass]

Install Connect Plus on bench drive
;)

Will work

[kabauterman]

good to know ;) thanks man

[Andre]

ROG Connect Plus on the Host or on the Remote Machine?!


host

[kabauterman]

host

great! :D

thanks, TurboEVO can rest in peach now :rofl:

[MaxXx]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but which is the better bios for memory benching for the M5F (mostly PSC chips)? Thanks in advance....

[kabauterman]

Sometimes I have troubles detecting my PSC Chip Memory (Corsair GTX1 and GSKILL RipJaws) I just get 55 with both sticks, can boot with just one Stick the other stick seems to be death.

I plug in some Samsung 2x4G work a while with them and then both PSC will work again... strange thing.

On MVE and MVG it runs just fine so I think it must be something on BIOS side.

Updates for MVF are also realy rare compared to the other ROG Z77 Board.. a shame

[MaxXx]

Anyone experience the saved profiles being wiped out after the computer reboots while running 3DMark11 (or 3DMVantage)? All the profiles just disappear. TIA...

[Shimano]

Does Bios from M5G work on M5F ? I'm after 1408 modded with new iRST OROM.

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23378&postcount=371

[Tiltevros]

any new Bios for M5F???? why everyone is so quiet around here?

[radi]

he works hard ... hashwell is comming ;)

[chispy]

he works hard ... hashwell is comming ;)

This ^^^ exactly !

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

he works hard ... hashwell is comming ;)


Always quiet before the storm:whistle:

[Tiltevros]

we need a storm :D

[I.nfraR.ed]

Hey guys,

I haven't used my M5F for 2 months and now when I tried to fire it up it gives me a POST code 76. Last time it was working fine - it was for the XS low clock challenge. CPU was on water and RAM on air. Then I put it aside.

What I tried:

- 1 stick RAM in all slots, different modules with different ICs
- no ram installed at all
- bios flashback with 0804 and 0095 from a USB stick (renamed to M5F.CAP, hold ROG connect button for some seconds, then release when it starts to blink)
- reseat cpu
- GO button

I don't have another cpu to test, but there are no bent pins in the socket and cpu should be in tact.
Measured voltages with DMM and they are all fine.

What should I do?

[Sam]

is there a BIOS for M5F that properly supports Celeron G1610?
With 0095 and 0701 I can set anything but system will continue running at stock, with 1408 and 1602 not all memory multipliers are available

[subzero]

@ shammy my mobo is stuck at code 78 and no boot
method to revive mobo,used bios flashback without luck

[Shammy]

sounds like one of the half dead cpu of mine.
you sure the cpu is still alive?
you can try ln2 mode Enabled to see if higher boot up voltage would help it revive.

[subzero]

sounds like one of the half dead cpu of mine.
you sure the cpu is still alive?
you can try ln2 mode Enabled to see if higher boot up voltage would help it revive.

cpu dead on stock cooling stock settings nice one

[Raja@ASUS]

Calm down dude.

If that's not a brand new CPU then what Shammy says makes sense.

If it is brand new and has not ever been OC'd, then maybe some weird ME or memory problem.

[subzero]

Calm down dude.

If that's not a brand new CPU then what Shammy says makes sense.

If it is brand new and has not ever been OC'd, then maybe some weird ME or memory problem.:up:

CPU tested on another mobo and still same code R.I.P my good ivy
fixed rma

[I.nfraR.ed]

Hey guys,

I haven't used my M5F for 2 months and now when I tried to fire it up it gives me a POST code 76.
.
.
.


Tried it with 2500K as well, but still get a 76 code, while both CPUs work at another board. Going to try RMA, but not sure it will be accepted and as I see M5F is not available in Bulgaria anymore :(
You guys are lucky to RMA boards even 3-4 times per model without any issues...