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Shammy
08-26-2009, 10:14 PM
So the story goes like this, I've had 3 GTX 280s I was benching close to a year ago. I've almost never removed the GPU pots from them. They had the GPU shim removed.

A few months ago a friend needed a card to play some games. So I finally unmounted the pot on one of the cards after more than half a year. I unmodded it and put it back on the stock cooler. First boot and I got greeted with artifacts. I remounted the pot back on the card and the artifacts went away. So I knew that some of the bga solder balls of the gpu core had broken and contacts were not made without the card flexing. So with some spacers to apply pressure at the right spots, the card was working fine air-cooled.

Then I tried to run some 3D but the card overheated after a short while. which was weird so I placed a probe at the IHS of the core and also looked at the core temp with furmark. There was a huge discreprancy, the core was really hot but the IHS was not. So that means that the thermal interface between core and IHS had crapped out.

I removed the IHS and saw that the thermal interface had become a very thin grey peelable piece of peper-like material. I removed the pot from another card and found the same phenomenon.

So now i think it's better to leave the shim on the card when mounting pots. As for the thermal interface with IHS, I can't really say what happened but maybe at really low temps like -160C as I have tried on the cards, the TIM sorta changed properties after some time.

3oh6
08-26-2009, 10:33 PM
damn, i got the exact same thing on my 260...only had a pot mounted for a couple months. i am definitely going to try the spacer idea. i am assuming the spacers go right behind the card forcing the cooler to bend the card in at the edges to simulate the GPU pot?

man, awesome piece of advice at the perfect time, i really would like this 260 to work again :up:

Shammy
08-26-2009, 10:44 PM
I used behind to increase the pressure on the core and left the rest of screws unscrewed. you can also try thin therm pad at the perimeter ofr the core and thermal paste in the center cos when cards flex usually its the bga balls at the perimeter of care that breaks.

3oh6
08-26-2009, 11:06 PM
gotcha, man i wish i still had access to all my tools. i would simply strip the card down and setup a profile then put it through the and let it all reflow. that or the IR hot plate...that thing is a treat for reflowing BGA's.

Shammy
08-26-2009, 11:11 PM
oh yea, a suitable oven to bake it may work too.

3oh6
08-27-2009, 02:16 AM
well dammit, Peter, thanks...it worked on my GTX260 GOOC card. i just used a washer to prevent the screw from going into the recess of the backplate and reefed on the screws as much as i could without stripping the heads...voila, no more artifacts :up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/3oh6/kpcooling/_MG_3363.jpg

i'll try to do a bake with it in the oven at some point with pressure and see if i can't really fix the card. temps are great still so obviously no IHS/core contact/TIM issues with this card. it only had a couple sessions at -140C so i wouldn't expect it to.

Shammy
08-27-2009, 07:01 AM
good to hear that jodi, but wth can u do with an air-cooled card? :D

GFDuke
09-26-2009, 05:45 AM
good to hear that jodi, but wth can u do with an air-cooled card? :D

LOL Good point.

chispy
04-03-2010, 12:42 AM
oh yea, a suitable oven to bake it may work too.

Peter for how long and at what temperature you reccomend for baking a card on a regular oven ?

Its for my GTX285 , thank you in advance :up:.

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7863#post7863

Punx223
04-03-2010, 12:49 AM
first mix all ingredients, then ensure you get it a nice golden brown on both sides :rofl:

chispy
04-03-2010, 01:19 AM
first mix all ingredients, then ensure you get it a nice golden brown on both sides :rofl:

:parghh: , you funny guy :rofl: , read here bro you might be able to give me some advice on how to fixed this resurrected from the dead card :up:
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7863#post7863

Let me know thru PM when can we speak on MSN bro , take care my friend. I will take the card to well done Golden Brown :p